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Jako vážně? Četl jsi ty články vůbec? :grinning:

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Ne

Len marnim cas

Ale preco si ich adresoval mne ?

Funny, no nic, jdu spát. :sleeping:

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podla toho, ze som tu sezonu sledoval a bez chyb ktore narobil ich jazdec tak by ten titul ziskal. samozrejme dodavat, ze aj tim narobil vela nevynutenych(pomozme si tenisovou terminologiou :slight_smile: ) chyb bez ktorych by titul ziskali aj s tym slabsim jazdcom a jeho chybami :slight_smile:

no a toho jazdca povazujem proste celu jeho karieru za slabsieho ako bol jednotkovy jazdec v mercedese.
teraz fakt nebudem rozoberat celu karieru vettela aby sim ti vysvetlil, preco ho povazujem za slabsieho jazdca ako lujza. vacsina(by som dodal drviva) ludi ho tak isto povazuje za slabsieho

dnesne auto porovnavat s auto z 2017-18 proste nemozes, zmenilo sa strasne vela a to, ze dnes maju zle auto tak to fakt neznamena, ze ho mali aj v 2017-18

Aj Hamilton ked nema auto ako by si prial tak jazdi slabo a roby vela chyb , tak isto aj Noris alebo kazdy jeden jazdec. Ked mas dobre auto tak ta to auto podrzi v zatackach a vies sa nan spolahnut. Ked mas slabe auto tak si tolko neveris a si pomalsi . Ked to auto je pomale a ty tu pomalost chces kompenzovat riskantnejsou jazdou tak nie vzdy ti to vyjde. Povedz mi kedy v RB Vettel robil tolko chyb a havaroval ako vo ferrari? A kolko x Havaroval Hamilton ked jazdil v dobrom aute ? A prisiel do Ferrari a podava take vykony ako Vettel a uz aj vyletel s trate . Tak isto aj Sainz alebo Leclerc vela razy havarovali v preteku alebo kvalifikacii. Ak si pozries statistiky za poslednych 10 rokov tak tam najdes ze jazdci Ferrari su na tom druhy najhorsi hned po Wiliamse. Asi to dava urcity pohlad na to ze auto maju -mali rychle ale zle ovladatelne - nestabilne. Nenajdes tam jazdcov RB a Mercedesu na poprednych miestach lebo auto mali stabilne a bezpecne , dobre ovladatelne. Screenshot by Lightshot

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to nepochybne
ale proste vettela ja povazujem celkovo za horsieho jazdca ako lujza a ked si tak spomeniem na tie 2 sezony tak mna nikto nepresvedci, ze ferrari malo v tom case horsie auto
len jednoducho tim robil nevynutene chyby a aj vettel tam robil rovnako nevynutene chyby, ktorym keby sa vyhol tak sprehladom tituly ziska
ono v podstate bolo jedno kto z tych dvoch ci uz tim, alebo jazdec odvedu spickovu robotu, stacilo aby to bol jeden z nich a tituly by bralo ferrari s vettelom

aj v rb robil dost chyb, ved preto bol 2x alfonzo v boji o titul

Pozri sa ked bol Seb v pohode ked prisiel do Ferrari tak jazdil perfektne na to ake mali auto . To ze aj ked mal v 2017 a2018 aku taku nadej na titul neznamena ze to auto naizaj na to malo. Mozno ze len vdaka riskantnej jazde dokazal sa drzat v boji o titul ale vtedy prichadzaju aj chyby ktore by neprisli ak by nejazdil na hrane. A jeho team mu to vobec ale vobec neulahcil a prave naopak ked on musel bojovat proti Levisovi a aj zatke Botasovi a Raikonen mu nikdy tak nekril chrbat ale dokonca nechali jeho aby jazdil za Raikonenom. Spackane boxy a nezmyselne strategie to sa podpise na kazdom. Vidis to na Hamiltonovy a tak isto robil chyby aj Verstapen , Noris , Piastri alebo Leclerc. Ze to bol dobry jazdec ti musi dat rozum ked dokazal zo slabuckym Toro Roso vyhrat mokre preteky , Dokazal ziskat titul ako najmladsi majster sveta , najmladsi vitaz velkej ceny atd—

Ona už je to taky historie, ale celkem zajímavě zhodnotil Vettelovo působení ve Ferrari tehdejší mluvčí Alberto Antonini. Vyjadřuje se i k autům z r. 2017 a 2018:
https://f1sport.auto.cz/clanek/takhle-jsme-to-u-red-bullu-nedelali-vettel-chtel-zmenit-ferrari-ale-narazil

“Takhle jsme to v RB nedělali”…a to je celý? :grinning:

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@Hedgehog Ferrari uvažuje že najme Hornera ako mediátora medzi Scuderia Ferrari a Ferrari SpA. Zamestnajú ho ako konzultanta alebo pod Boardom Ferrari SpA, takže bude mimo cost cap. Vpodstate Fred a F1 budú separátny tím a u kravaťákov sa bude biť Horner.

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Docela tento týpek je kvalitný zdroj.

brakeboosted exclusive :rotating_light:

According to my source, discussions have indeed taken place between Ferrari and Christian Horner. However, some hesitation remains on Horner’s side, as he views Ferrari as something of a “poisoned chalice”. The team’s reputation for rapid turnover at the top has made this decision one that demands consideration.

It’s understood that Ferrari’s proposal includes a potential public equity incentive and the flexibility for Horner to remain based in the UK. An arrangement designed to make the role more appealing.

Internally, Ferrari is also weighing two possible organizational paths. One would see a reshuffle in which Fred Vasseur transitions into another division rather than being dismissed outright, similar to what happened with Mike Krack at AMR. There’s inherent risk that such a move could lead to tensions, which is a fairly common occurrence in F1. This would unsurprisingly lead to Fred’s resignation, given some decision-making power would be striped from him in this case. Whether d’Ambrosio is the direct successor to Vasseur in this instance wasn’t mentioned.

The alternative would involve a dual leadership model, inspired by McLaren’s Brown-Stella dynamic. In this scenario, Horner would act as a liaison between Scuderia Ferrari and Ferrari SpA. Christian would be handling corporate relations of Scuderia Ferrari, a very similar role to Zak Brown.

What follows is my own opinion, not connected to any paddock rumours.

It seems Ferrari are doing everything possible to keep Fred in the picture even with the potential arrival of Horner. Both drivers have expressed full support for him, and that loyalty carries weight in the negotiations. Ferrari needs to tread carefully because removing someone that is entrusted by the drivers could result in something more significant. That is why I think fitting Horner and Vasseur into the team is their priority. Whether it ends with both in the team, this will never be certain, and in my opinion unlikely.

That said, there are personal hurdles for Horner to clear. As mentioned by my source, Ferrari’s internal environment is volatile, many key figures have denied offers from Maranello for this exact reason. Whether we like it or not, Scuderia Ferrari is very tightly knitted to the car company’s brand value. So, it might also be true that signing Horner is a bid at boosting their stock prices by regaining the trust of investors. Obviously, given this is the intention this is a very short terministic approach, which I guess is not totally off brand. There is also the risk of having two strong personalities working alongside each other that might be counterproductive in this regard.

How this would work on a financial level, I’m unsure. Perhaps if Christian is added to the Ferrari board instead of the racing team his salary would be excluded from the cap, and this would keep their current top 3 earners excluded as well. The next option in this regard is to potentially label him as a consultant, but as I previously mentioned, what exactly this entails I really don’t know.

This is the information I have, and I am sharing, whether you choose to believe it or not is entirely at your discretion. I personally don’t think anything conclusive has been achieved yet, I think negotiations might still be at a very early stage.

Takže Horny chtěl být Wolff a skončí jako Dr.Marko?

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Nn skôr ako Brown. Ale aby nebol pod cost cap, tak bude “konzultant”

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Helmut je taky konzultant, který má plat mimo…
Teda on se jednu chvíli prezentoval jako strejda, který chodí okolo, když se řešil cost cap.

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Nie to nie je cele . To je len mala cast toho co chcel aby sa robilo nieco trochu inak a vo ferrari ho ignorovali . Preto dnes ma Ferrari za poslednych 18 rokov velke nic a RB si zapisal 8 titulov najstra sveta. Lebo tam kde sa pracuje systematicky tam sa dostavia aj vysledky. Kde sa systematicky nepracuje tam sa vysledky nedosahuju iba sa menia sefovia timov a zvaluje sa vsetko na jazdcov

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Ferrari na tom není zase tak špatně.

Ja ti neviem ale nevidim za poslednych 18 rokov ani jeden titul ci uz jazdecky alebo konstruktersky, Skus spocitat tituli Mercedesu a RB za to iste obdobie a potom napis ci to neni as tak spatne na team ktory je najdlhsie v f1 a ma najvyssi rozpocet.

Jsou lidi, kterým řekneš, že něco dělají špatně, ale pošlou tě do zádele, protože si myslí, že to dělají nejlíp na světě. Ale to bývají jednotky lidí. Italy neznám, nikdy jsem tam nebyl.
Teď šlo hodně zpráv, že jsou inženýři naštvaní na Leclerca a na Hama, protože veřejně hanobí jejich výtvor. Akorát zapomněli, že se jejich výtvory hanobí samy od sebe už několik let.

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Sorry, ale tyhle pohádky prostě nežeru. Vettel byl pilot a dělat tady šašky z celýho Ferrari a z něj inženýra, který vše myslel dobře, radil, ale nebyl vyslyšen…Nope, chtěl jsem konkrétní věci co jim radil a ne jen tyhle obecný žvásty.

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